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getting lunch/coffee with [livejournal.com profile] solieri, then I'm flyering for this weekend. If you want in on the putting-paper-on-walls action, call me.

Tonight: probably avoiding everyone and everything, but who knows.

Special Note: I'm really tired of feeling guilty for living my life. That's gonna stop *right here*.

Okay, off.

2004-08-19 16:49 (UTC)
by [identity profile] xzar.livejournal.com
a big thanks for doing the flyering for Saturday! i'd join you, but i'm packing for school all night.

2004-08-19 17:28 (UTC)
by [identity profile] queenmombi.livejournal.com
what time is flyering? i'm available until eight, methinks.

2004-08-19 17:42 (UTC)
by [identity profile] glass-grenade.livejournal.com
Special Note: I'm really tired of feeling guilty for living my life. That's gonna stop *right here*.

Bwah, I feel that way a lot for many different reasons. You said it well. You r0x0rz my s0x0rz. *hearts*

2004-08-19 17:51 (UTC)
by [identity profile] briskpepper.livejournal.com
I don't think that "living one's life" is something anyone should ever feel guilty about. It's the things that people do WHILE living their life that people should be cautious of.

Guilt doesn't do any good to anyone except the person feeling guilty, and that's only if they bother trying to figure out WHY they feel guilty. It really does about as much good to ignore guilt as it does to let it get in your way. There's typically no personal growth in either path and experience without personal growth is wasted - at least in my experience.

Dunno - your outlooks may be different.

2004-08-19 18:01 (UTC)
by [identity profile] glass-grenade.livejournal.com
I was seeing it more from the point of view where people try to guilt trip you for living just because they're assholes and are upset because your life doesn't revolve around them. "You're doing what you gotta do but ... you shouldn't be doing it! because blah blah blah, me me me" ... I seem to get caught in that trap really often and can't help but feel bad. Until I realize they're stupid. And I stab them with a rusty spork.

2004-08-19 18:33 (UTC)
by [identity profile] jdavyd.livejournal.com
because if you dont feel like youre doing anything wrong, you really have no reason to feel guilty.

so if you end up with the guilt... youve really gotta examine how you feel about the things you do.

2004-08-19 21:34 (UTC)
by [identity profile] briskpepper.livejournal.com
agreed.

i would add that just because you feel guilty for something, doesn't mean that doing whatever it was was a bad thing. Sometimes we do things that we normally wouldn't, but because of the end results - it ends up being for the better.

2004-08-19 23:56 (UTC)
by [identity profile] inefficiency.livejournal.com
You can have "nothing" to feel guilty about, and still feel that way. Why? Because guilt isn't necessarily facilitated by reason, but by feelings. Feelings that you yourself can trigger, or that other people can trigger within that.

So why would they try to trigger this guilt?

Perhaps they don't know any better. Once they make the realization of what they're doing, then it can stop. Perhaps it's because they're hurt, and they don't want to be alone in that. Such attitudes are unfortunate, but real. What is most unfortunate about them is that when one tries to make the best decision for themselves, the best reasonable choice, they are met with resentment, and deliberate efforts to incur guilt. Sympathetic people, kind people, most people aren't immune.

So what's to be done? It would seem to me that virtually all outcomes fall one of two ways. The attempts to guilt trip, to cause guilt or pain, cease and both parties move forward to work with what they've got...or the attempts continue, and eventually the person that made that first decision has to develop a thick skin to survive. In an attempt to change what is, the person making attempts to incur guilt must eventually be satisfied with what is left. They must then determine whether they really did the right thing.

I am sorry to see that the latter has come to pass, Xiane, but I am glad to see that your guilt is over.

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